tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post2519200030764059543..comments2023-05-20T02:59:34.668-05:00Comments on No, You're Hyperbolic: No, YOU'RE Wrong, Fractally Wrong!!jumcohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15753433888238396781noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-69476824156087787522008-11-22T13:41:00.000-06:002008-11-22T13:41:00.000-06:00I love how this post has fractally grown....I love how this post has fractally grown....omenshynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742626259881017953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-14498863665722416492008-11-22T04:35:00.000-06:002008-11-22T04:35:00.000-06:00>>>This appears to be awfully close to st...>>>This appears to be awfully close to stating the Kantian, Hegelian, Heideggerian, cum Sarterian world view that experience, as it informs opinion and the dialectic, is necessary for knowledge itself. I always thought of you as more of an analytical, experiential evidence cannot contribute beyond self-identifying truisms, type of guy. Maybe I am wrong or you've been unclear.<<Pericleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06945738688567266186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-26139438478712090932008-11-21T00:33:00.000-06:002008-11-21T00:33:00.000-06:00A) Nothing I've read from Pericles or Tony dispro...A) Nothing I've read from Pericles or Tony disproves the notion that it is acceptable to continually harbor disproved opinions.<BR/><BR/>B) Pericles, I've never thought of you as a Kantian. "In fact, all knowledge starts as opinion, until contradicted by another opinion, which then identifies that opinion as a candidate for error, which creates further inquiry." This appears to be awfully jumcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15753433888238396781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-60928021040286171312008-11-20T23:26:00.000-06:002008-11-20T23:26:00.000-06:00Tony is correct (again). The point has a long and...Tony is correct (again). The point has a long and distinguished pedigree. It is known, in philosophic circles, and the incompatibility between "reason" and "revelation." Neither can disprove the other. Stated differently, the "principle of contradiction"-on which all logic and therefore science is based--is unhelpful in deciding the dispute. As for the relationship between opinion and Pericleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06945738688567266186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-15136239953090216582008-11-19T21:47:00.000-06:002008-11-19T21:47:00.000-06:00One has a right to one's own opinion. But you do n...One has a right to one's own opinion. But you do not have a right to your own <I>facts.</I><BR/><BR/>Statements of fact can be proven or disproven (at least theoretically --it is a matter of fact as to whether intelligent beings inhabit the planet Tralfamadore; we just don't happen to have the information right now); statements of opinion cannot be proven or disproven. I taught this at some Tony Waltershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03883880092140808832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-40743426581322640632008-11-19T21:13:00.000-06:002008-11-19T21:13:00.000-06:00First of all, fractal wrongness is REAL. Example:(...First of all, fractal wrongness is REAL. Example:(I think, my opinion is, did you know)Barak Obama is a terrorist. This statement is fractally wrong and in no way can be true no matter the angle of approach. My post of the 'team building' picture was in jest. Katya's opposition in opinion is groundless because I made no point. Subsequently, Jumco's apt post does mirror my own feelings on the omenshynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742626259881017953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-59033487692147541792008-11-19T16:42:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:42:00.000-06:00You've explained to yourself the protests of Kesha...You've explained to yourself the protests of Kesha and I. People use the term "opinion" when actually attempting to muster a defense of their "belief:" Groundless claims based on nothing more than whim. So, when people say, "I am entitled to my opinion," more often than not they are debasing the language they use and more accurately mean, "I am entitled to my groundless and unreasoned beliefs.jumcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15753433888238396781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-20184878208892613162008-11-19T16:38:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:38:00.000-06:00Who, in fact, is 'entitled' to a 'wrong opinion' w...Who, in fact, is 'entitled' to a 'wrong opinion' when that opinion is already shown to be glaringly false or misinformed? Kesha and I both recommend <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Against-Logic-Politicians-Journalists/dp/0071446435" REL="nofollow">Crimes Against Logic</A> for a fuller explanation of our protests.jumcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15753433888238396781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-63517389385311387432008-11-19T16:19:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:19:00.000-06:00Kant was totally a fractal. Think about it...Kant was totally a fractal. Think about it...Eluzhunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17531914998352876586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-72803193337754750872008-11-19T13:28:00.000-06:002008-11-19T13:28:00.000-06:00. . . or a Kantian.. . . or a Kantian.Pericleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06945738688567266186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-862751130582500985.post-34474976814915195312008-11-19T12:38:00.000-06:002008-11-19T12:38:00.000-06:00You can have an opinion that the Earth is flat. Be...You can have an opinion that the Earth is flat. Belief in that makes one Fractally wrong.omenshynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742626259881017953noreply@blogger.com